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>>> booktv recently sought with michael skerker of the u.s. naval academy to talk about his book an ethics of interrogation. this interview is part of book tv's college series. it's about 20 minutes. >> you are watching book tv on c-span2. one of the things we do in booktv is visit campuses around the country. it gives us a chance to talk with professors who are also authors and today we are at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis maryland and joining us is the author of this book, michael skerker an ethics of interrogation is the name of the book. published by the university of chicago press. professor skerker, what do you do with theb academy? >> i teach the ethics class all the youngsters have to take and a number to loss of one studies to request to reduce the ethics of interrogation in your book is the philosophical books worth how to interrogate?y >> guest: >> it is the principal question number one circumstances can the state asked.yyyyyyy then there are some practical dos and don'ts as well. >> what is the geneva convention that we always talk about? spec the gene
a chance to talk with professors who are also authors, and today we are at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis to maryland. joining us is the author of this book, michael skerker, an ethics of interrogation is the name of the book published by the university of chicago press. professor, first of all, what do you do at the naval academy? >> i am an ethicist. to see at this glass that all the answers have to take in some upper levels las, religiousyy studies and that they courses. >> would you say your book is a philosophical book or a how to interrogate book? >> it is a work of philosophy. the principal question is under what circumstances can a statey ask more demand to know the secrets of its citizens.y there are some practical dos and don'ts as well. >> what is the geneva convention that we always talk about? >> the geneva convention to protect pow's signed in 1948. >> and how did that come about? what will does it play inyyy interrogation?yyyyyyy >> sure.yyyyyyyy throughout much of the historyy of warfare, prisoners-of-waryy were treated at the mercy
in numbers left them vulnerable. throughout the first quarter century of u.s. independence, written and americans had chafed each other about the population, its regulation, its limitation. even as white americans claim to meet enslaved africans and african-americans, the people they labored for that covered indian land to support ever-growing numbers of the nation's people. the british interfered with then criticized u.s. lanes on both counts. on the continent, the british continue to cultivate diplomatic and economic ties -- ties with native american supporting the rival population for whom the united states perceived the greatest stress. on the ocean britain controlled atlantic shipping for bidding the atlantic slave trade after 18 seven and harassing the u.s. merchants. meanwhile, britain's traditional goal of population limitation, because usually the british thought on their small biothat they had too many people but the royal navy needed every hand he they could find on deck. the british practice supporting american ships to round up back the bond british seamen provoked enor
on a takedown of the treasury in the auto bailout. three guys earned $4.2 billion from the u.s. treasury. you remember that from the debate, right? no one asks, no one is answering that begin today, we got the confirmation from the romney campaign. now, what is this all about? and what does it have to do with the congo? i was reporting for bbc television and the guardian. when i found out that someone had figured out how to dip their hands, their claws into the foreign aid fund, the debt relief given to the republic of congo which is suffering a cholera epidemic. this money was intended to be used, $90 million intended to be used to in the cholera epidemic in the congo and yet it was waylaid by a bird of prey, a vulture, a vulture fund, a guide -- managed by a guy named paul singer. is other middle name is elliott. paul elliott singer who has accompanied by a good name of elliott management so i went up the congo river for abc television to find out what happened and i found elliott management had their claws around the cholera of money for the congo. we reported it on bbc television and the
administration had against him, had tried against him. because syria was -- opposed the u.s. led invasion of iraq in 2003. the syrian government was looking the other way or even supporting jihaddists who were entering into iraq and killing american and allies forces. so the u.s. and syria were on opposite sides of the street, to say the least. he survived that. he survived the association with the assassination of former lebanese prime minister in february of 2005, in a damning un report that was leaked that held syria responsible. he survived all that and actually emerged in somewhat flying colors by 2008-2009, accepted back into the regional order, into the international community, even representatives at an anational plows meeting to jump start the arab-israeli peace talk. so i think he developed a sense of survivalism. he and his supporters. to the point where, when you have another challenge, and the most serious to date, obviously, since march 2011 and continuing today, that sense of triumphantism, that they're on the right side of history, sense of destiny, and i sincerely believe if i ta
is currently -- today he's the chief legal adviser of the u.s. state department. in other words, he advises the president on what international law. he's the american spokesman on international law. he was the dean of yale law school. he gave a major speech last week at georgetown law. harold coe wrote, quote: domestic courts must play a major role in coordinating u.s. domestic constitutional rules with the rules of foreign and international law to advance the broader development of a well-functioning international judicial system. well, think about that for a minute. american courts can't coordinate the law from international law. they won't have much influence over bear national law and foreign law, but they can coordinate american law. that's the influence american courts have. so in other words by definition, if this is true, if we coordinate american law with foreign international law, he would have to subordinate american law to foreign international law. it's the only way this would logically work. the fourth person i'm going to talk about for a minute is anne marie slaughter. she wa
, it was a state was created out of new york and new hampshire. they fought over it. it has its reflection in the u.s. constitution. the article on the closet talks about how states will be made in the constitution, is merely a result of the conflict that we had with new hampshire and vermont. how is vermont going to be a separate state? so we had have that influence on the constitution making of that country. the cover image is a detail. if you look at the whole of it, it has everything about vermont that we need to know. it has an industry going there. it has a church and a meeting house. it has a microcosmic view of what the state is about. the mountains have not only been a geographic figure, but it is an agricultural state. everything that is going on in the state, it is somehow captured. it became the perfect image for we are trying to accomplish in the book by showing the variety. not this one thing, the connectedness to the east and the west end an important part of the development that goes on. it might surprise people about vermont in this one marvelous painting. >> in 1927, a flood caused
, but that all changed for me in october of 2008 when i got a call from my boss, u.s. attorney, mike garcia. he called me in the office, and i have the oh, my god, it's the principal's office feeling in the pit of the stomach. he handed me a printout, special inspector general, it was a piece of the legislation that congress passed authorizing treasury to borrow $700 billion to rescue wall street, bail out the banks, put us on a path supposedly to economic recovery. this piece i was not aware of was when they passed the law, congress created a brand new agency. when mike explained to me what was the agency was going to do, two functions, one a law enforcement agency, a fbi for the t.a.r.p. with guns, badges, special agents, knocking down doors, executing search warrants, taking criminals out of their homes, putting them in cuffs, and in jail. congress realized pushing out so much money it was inevitably going to draw criminal flies to the government honey, and they needed a law enforcement agency to protect the money. second was oversight to bring transparency giving reports to congress and to
the canopy which in the u.s. economy be the big firms, ge, gm, wal-mart, all that. then he got the small business. but it's the small and growing permit the things that were small but can challenge the big and it's what happens in the big tree falls over. new trees to read out of it, right out of the old tree. it is a metaphor, but it's real. when we lose something in the economy, it's vital we reconfigure resources and create something new out of it. so do we need control? we need feedback. we need the capability to repurpose. in this country, we need to build a robust platform for people to realize what they have incited that. that is why people came to this country and that is why people here look for a better future will be like a better future feature their ancestors looked to when they came. so i would say yes, you know, we need control, but we need controls. all kind of interdependencies and self-regulation, what's working, what's not what gets us to the endpoint, which is better may take human lives. it's not gdp, not increase transactions. it's what kind of lives we live. >> hos
talking to professors or authors we're at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis merrill lynch. with professor aaron o'connell also the author of this book "underdogs" the making of the modern marine corps." professor when was the marine corps established? >> 1775 but the birthday is us mess. the record always claims november but that is the date that congress authorized but they never raised the battalion raised then. >> day never were. but the first goes then 28 november but 10 november still celebrated as a birthday. >>host: what was the purpose of the marine corps? >> to be the guard on a ship to protect the officers from the crew it was difficult to salish up they had to have people there so the principal job was to be the ship's guard and served and snipers but it is a very small part of the navy. >> this -- record is complete the service? >> separate inside the navy but they would claim when they served aboard they should follow the rules amadeus served ashore to follow the regulations of the
>> the u.s. defense agency has said information and intelligence are the fire and maneuver of the 21st century. those of you who are familiar with more fighting back since with pakistan, iraq and afghanistan know how important this has become but though one raid did iraq where operator seized the computer equivalent of the rolodex negative a rolodex that tracked 500 al qaeda suicide bombers or terrace filtered into iraq through syria. but the database of 500 individuals that were recruited to blow themselves up was critical with the effort to take al qaeda at it is in mesopotamia apart inside iraq. >> the mother lode of documents seized that has been known as the sinjar parade illustrates the point* nicely made by lt. general lewis, or flynn six years after a 9/11 attacks that intelligence committees representing a wide variety of agencies, but notorious and secret, had been collaborating on the unprecedented capability to crush the terrorist networks. addition to the special ops they used supercomputers and custom software for deployed a skilled and list and to charge just
president bush's decision at the end of 2006 deserted u.s. forces there. he faced a similar challenge in afghanistan between the middle of 2010 in the middle of 2011. his time in afghanistan is the focus of policy book. although the book has a broader week. she incorporates lots of biographical information about him in an effort to examine what has made him so effective and influential as a leader. she has a phd in public policy, which involves a public study of petraeus regarding transformational leadership and organizational information. as a graduate of west point, paula knows the army army from the inside. in her book, she takes readers into command posts and training sites and battlefields. and she was granted a number of opportunities to travel with petraeus and even to jog with him, which as anyone who has tried that knows that they probably deserve a medal in and of itself. petraeus is the notorious for the intensity in which he works out. and it is the same intensity that he applies to just about everything he does. i might add that paula herself is no athletic slacker. she w
. americans are like the u.s. mail , not rain, snow, gloom of night can prevent these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds. and i would like to begin with an anecdote about christopher. i put it in a novel. and put it in on the basis of one thing he said, sort of incorporating him into the novel because i could not bear to leave this out. the basis, having dinner its only big enough for one person. about to get going. 1975. two young man came into the restaurant and suits with long hair. they were sort of up to the upper classes basically. they began to talk, whisper among some cells and asking the waiter questions. have a big party come to the restaurant.. it went on and on. we could not get -- such a distraction. and demand did not work for a living but patiently awaited the debt of elderly relatives. then one of them came up to us. pretty clear when he was going to do, ask us to move tables. he came up and crashed. after a flagitious pause he looked up, putting it through his french. he had had many successes in this way of bending others to his will, the pound, the
and billions of properties u.s. based? verizon, general electric. i just met a fellow from general electric at union station. i said, what did you do? i was in the cfo's office. i said, you got quite a tax avoidance, could have been evasion, too, club there. he said, they're some of the smartest people in the company. we actually give them prizes when they end up saving us from our tax responsibilities. we give them prizes. they have quotas, and year after year, general electric has e caped more than any other company from making big money, escaping from federal income tax, and getting billions back from the treasury. they get a check from the treasury after they pay 0. the head of general electric, he has presided over a company, exports more jobs than creates in this country. he's a job exporter, and so he was nominated by president obama to head the jobs council of the white house. huh? he pays no federal income tax for his company. he pays more federal income tax than his giant corporation in dollars, and his income is larger, of course, than the income tax of the giant corporation pays
under nixon, and they realized that too late to launch -- trying to help humphrey, and instead the u.s. allies ..n saigon were much here calculating and worked to help nixon win, and he won be a very razor-thin victory. >> thank you very much for your good work. i have a question about the intelligence reports, because before the united states goes into a war with any country, they have to go to the d based on intelligence report. so my question is, is there any politics like on the intelligence, from the intelligence, or they get -- just didn't get it right? >> we just found out ha >> we just found out recently in the national security archives, some thing like two years, if you look at the goal of tonkin documents, like the attack never happened. this gave lbj the blank check to wage war in vietnam. he knew north vietnamese could not carry out the second attack and so again you can see so many similarities with what happened with the war in iraq. in short, what i can say is the gulf of tonkin documents reveal that they were doctored. >> was it benefit of hindsight and research, were
a mockery of the u.s. constitution and was therefore quickly dismissed as a level with the time. a self-described new democrat he sets his policies would have been only the second president to face impeachment, a drastic measure that republican leaders immediately dropped as an absurd active in the lofty constitutional standard for impeachment of high crimes and misdemeanors. also self aware enough to realize they're own marital infidelities would have tainted the already dubious legal proceedings. these considerations as well as they share revulsion at the thought of tying up two branches of government for months and diverting millions of taxpayer dollars to a trial the public would quickly unmasked as a political and motivated ploy prompted house leaders to simply allow americans to assess his personal indiscretions for themselves. this noble gesture restraint continues to inform the conduct of republicans to the state. >> on that note of like to read the entry for homosexuality >> on that note. sexual attraction between politically conservative or evangelical white males. some sexual
another publisher. can i get 10,000 books donated to the u.s. of? we had 40,000 books donated. and all tell you, i never, whether because of that or other reasons, they love thrillers. we don't want to send literary fiction, we want thrillers. so when i got there it was amazing how many readers we have there. just really like that fast-paced action adventure. so we have been very blessed to have a lot of military reading the books. >> host: when you write your thrillers you keep the language issues out of there, is that correct. >> guest: i do. i had a woman who wrote to me and said, i love your bucks and i read one of the books, and the language, wanted to give it to my younger son to read. i said, you know what, i can do it without the language. now i get these letters from other authors to say, of these other people are ready to be saying that you should write like brad meltzer because he doesn't need dickerson his book. i tell them to go screw themselves and follow my lead. the truth is, we have been very, very fortunate that we can be read by nine urals and teenagers to come and r
. he believed in bringing democracy to the world, and she thought the u.s. had been involved in iran and iraq and the most heinous and criminal way from the 1953 overthrow, i do have to give the whole history, and here, that it was an attempt to overthrow a terrible despot, unemployment rate the country. and bring a democratic movement. it may not have been executed well. it may have built. you may not agree with it but he really believed that, and that's why he supported it. it was not so that he could be contrary or to reliance of in a way that he would be perceived as unpredictable. so i don't think he ever tried to cultivate the bad boy image, and i don't think he was a bad boy. >> i will say that he did have a flutter for showmanship, and it wasn't lost on them with reputation. >> that's true. >> or he did say once the thought of preventive war gave him an erection. >> say what? >> the thought to prevent war gave him an erection. >> yeah if that's a bit speed i didn't remember that one. [laughter] but as for kissinger, i do think it's done with them because they have reissued hi
part, but do you think that's unique to those particular prisons, or do you think that's across the u.s.? because the brutality's almost unbelievable. >> it's hard to say. i've heard of other prisons. you know, they're always going to keep stuff like that covered up, you know? they're never going to allow a camera into a prison when, you know, the most brutal things are going on. if they do ever allow a camera in, it's going to be in a very tightly-controlled situation. you know, they're not going to do the things they would normally be doing to someone while someone from the outside is there watching. you have all the time in the u.s., you have prisons that are on the verge of of riots, that are, you know, prisoners going on strike, refusing to work, they have to shut the whole prisons down, and people out here never hear of it because they say if it's reported in the media, it'll make the prisoners even more aggressive, even more bold. they'll say, okay, the world's paying attention, someone's watching, someone's seeing what we're doing, and it'll make 'em do it even more. so a lot of
wonder, how do you see u.s. national security and defense change them or the notion of it changing in that world? thank you. >> you know, i think that historically speaking we've been living in a world in which either the united kingdom or the united states have been a global provider of security for a long time. they underwrite the open trade, giunta right the international support, used to be the telegraph. but this infrastructure of the global system has depended to some extent on there being a hierarchy in the international system. and when you're in a world in which there is less hierarchy than reaching agreement becomes more difficult. i'm someone who believes in american ideas and american ideals are i think those ideas and ideals have a great deal of traction and appeal around the world, but also believe that the appeal of our ideas is very difficult to untangle from our power. and the american way has been very alluring, in part because it's attached to the dollar into the aircraft carriers. and when we're in a world in which there are other countries out there, and i thin
of the u.s. defense intelligence agency has said that information and intelligence are the fire and maneuver of the 21st century, and those of you who are familiar with war fighting methods in iraq and afghanistan know how important this has become, and i'll talk more about that as i go along, but i want to read you about a passage about a raid in iraq called the sinjar raid where special operatives seized the computer equivalent of the roladex. it tracked 500 al-qaeda suicide bombers or terrorists who had filtered into iraq through syria, and the possession of this data base of 5 # 00 individuals who were recruitedded to blow themselves up or arrange for terrorist attacks was critical in the effort to take al-qaeda apart inside of iraq, and i'll read you what i wrote here in the prologue. the motherload of documents seized in what has become known as the sinjar raid illustrated the point nicely. the point made by lieutenant general flynn. in the six years after the 9/11 attacks, the u.s. military and intelligence communities representing a wide variety of agencies, large and sm
-trained military asset for the u.s. army -- or for the u.s. navy? >> sure, yeah. great question. so part of it was -- and i write about this in the book, you know, there was one moment when i was in bosnia, and i was actually in a shelter in a refugee camp, and i was with one man who had, who had his own family had suffered tremendously. and i was in the shelter with him, and i remember he said to me, he said, you know, i appreciate the fact that you're here, he said, don't get me wrong. he said i appreciate the fact that there's a shelter here for my family, i appreciate the fact that my kids can go to a kindergarten, and i'm glad there's food here, but he said if people really cared about us, they'd be willing to protect us. and i didn't know what to say to him at the time. i was only 20 years old. but i remember reflects on that later and realizing that what he said was true, that if there's anything in our life that we really do love, that we really do care about, that we're willing to respond to it of course with care and with compassion, but it's also the case of the things that we
u.s. air boris it's not down tighter than fort knox. i was not expect dean to see this peasant kind of plot along in front of my airplane. he was 20 feet in front of the jet leading a donkey. i thought, what am i doing here? to donkey kong to relieve himself in front of the airplane and they both should her head at me and walked off. so there's some funny things like that. it basically traces them the path of at least my path as a fighter pilot. i came back from egypt, i've been overseas for six years at the good life. i lived in europe. you guys in the military know you get to travel and do things. so most of the capital cities, you know, a lot of neat things you don't normally see. used to keep a horse by the pyramids. i mean, how cool is that to go riding into the peer nodes. but i wanted to come home. i have not a sonnet worker in a long time and haven't ended to resort to this open past 8:00 at night for a long time and i wanted to come home and i did. i got selected to attend the fighter weapons school out of malice, which is the air force version of the navy school. i darted
for the u.s. navy. >> that's a great question. part of it was, and i write about this in the book, there was one moment when i was in bosnia and i was actually in a shelter in a refugee camp. and i was with one man whose own family had suffered tremendously. i remember he said to me that i appreciate the fact that you are here. do not get me wrong. i appreciate the fact that there is a shelter here for my family and my kids can go to kindergarten and i am glad there is food here, but if people really cared about us, they would be willing to protect us. i have no idea what to say to him at the time. but i remember reflecting on that later and realizing that what he said was true. but if there is anything in our lives that we really do love and care about, that we are willing to respond with care and compassion. it is also the case that the things that we care about and love, we are also willing to act with courage and protect people and love them in that way. so i started to think about what it meant to really care about something and live a life of compassion and courage. i became
tracted -- protracted conflict. they never had a goal of retaking the u.s. so negotiations started from the very beginning. and one of the interesting notes about this war is one of the declared reasons for the war were these so-called british orders in council which had to do with interfering with american shipping rights. the british actually rescinded in wars -- the wars in council before the united states declared war, but because of transatlantic delays in communication, the u.s. didn't know it. so by the time the war officially broke out, the british had already conceded one of the major point that is the u.s. supposedly wanted action on. so really the british were never committed to this war, but, you know, when the u.s. declared war, today had to respond. so if anything, the peace treaty probably wasn't abrupt, it was a very long time coming. >> hi. >> oh, hi. >> thank you very much. it was a very interesting talk. i'm wondering, the 50th anniversary of the war of 1812, of course, was 1862, right at the beginning of the civil war. i'm wondering if the way that the united states
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